Truly we are in the clutches of our enemies. Here is run of the mill hypocrite, liar and cheat Charles (right) “Charlie” Elphicke, MP for Dover:
Thank you for your email… I was very disappointed at the outcome [of the referendum]. I had made the case to remain because I was concerned that the pound would collapse, the stock market would crash and the French would seek to return the border to Dover [not hard to predict, really.] …However, the people of Dover & Deal, as well as the people of Britain as a whole, did not agree. They decided that they wanted to leave the Europe an Union. The turnout was incredibly high. [For a decision of this magnitude?] The result was close, but clear. [One vote is “clear” if you want it so, but 3.78% is not clear.] While I did not want this, it is now my duty to roll up my sleeves and make it work…I cannot agree that…MPs should seek to subvert the expressed will of the people and vote this down in Parliament. We serve the people and we must respect the will of the people. [Tell that to all the Tories- I have spoken to some- who want to bring back the Birch, as well as hanging.]
I am sorry to send you a response I know you will find to be disappointing.
All the Tories from Cameron and May down are saying the same- “We must respect the Will of the People”. It is a disaster. It harms the people- harms our environment, making fracking easy and beaches dirty, preventing employees from enforcing any rights they retain, reducing net migration by the only means available, which was tanking the economy. The Tories’ paymasters, the very rich, will profit from our misery, and our misery will make us vote for anger and hatred and deceit, rather than hope and worthwhile change.
If Labour oppose leaving the EU, angry voters will vote Tory or UKIP so that they can harm themselves in the way they chose, incited by the lies of Rupert Murdoch and Paul Dacre, thereby harming their interests. Labour will lose working class voters who voted Leave.
The Liberal Democrats may regain some ground by being the largest party supporting Remain. I think the Greens should too. We won’t be the vanguard of the working classes- our niche is nice, handwringing middle-class folk like myself- so we can speak up for the truth, while politics gets dirtier, and hope a few people listen.
During the campaign, David Cameron said he would invoke Article 50 immediately if he “lost” the referendum. Immediately after, he said that would be for his successor. They do not care, their lies are so blatant. Now, mouthing certainty of invoking it, they will find more reasons to delay, causing more uncertainty, market turbulence, and gains for the wealthiest. We need to invoke Article 50 now.
Meanwhile… have you done the math? At this precise moment you still have full access to any EU country of your choice. Have you checked which has policies that work best for you? Worth looking in to.
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Having thought before the referendum that Remain would win, and been told clearly that the referendum was “advisory”, I have not yet got that far.
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But… she may have to leave when the Brexit is done… No one can guarantee what will be the rules about British citizens living in EU countries.
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It takes a lot of effort to expel so many people: perhaps they would not bother. And the British Parliament has just voted to preserve rights of residents here: co-operation is better than confrontation.
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Depends. France, for example, has already guaranteed that UK residents will have the same rights as French nationals.
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About governments “respecting the will of the people:” many civil rights laws in the United States passed in spite of protests against them. Sometimes governments have to choose to do what’s right rather than what’s popular, and let history judge.
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Precisely. This man and his co-conspirators have a duty to act in the interests of the country as he admits he knows them to be.
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The problem is: why organize a referendum if not to comply by the result?
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Precisely not to comply with the result, as with the 1978 Scottish devolution referendum: the Labour government did not want devolution, so required 40% of the electorate to vote for it. It did not pass.
Dominic Lawson’s theory sounds plausible: the Tory PM had angered his xenophobic, homophobic supporters by supporting equal marriage; so to stop them going off in a pet, to UKIP, he promised them an EU referendum, hoping Remain would win.That is, he gambled the economy for party management, and we all lost.
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