Using the shooting

Hours after the shootings at Pulse, Orlando, people are using them to further their aims.

The Real Donald Trump tweeted, Is President Obama going to finally mention the words radical Islamic terrorism? If he doesn’t he should immediately resign in disgrace! There are times to call for a Presidential resignation, but not this. Trump incites insane levels of anger, to stop his dupes thinking. He inflames hatred to direct at his enemies. He directs attention to his chosen scapegoat, Islam and Muslims, to prevent people thinking about their real problems.

Da’esh have now claimed responsibility. Well, the shooter is dead, so how could we tell? They want to appear powerful.

Would Omar Mateen have no part in any “well-regulated militia”? Even gun control is complex. We hear he had no criminal record, FBI investigations into terrorist links were inconclusive, and while his wife said he was mentally unstable, he was employed as an armed security guard. Gun control which would have prevented him getting any guns at all would be far more far-reaching than any proposed in the US. Was there any mental illness diagnosed? I can’t find it on the web.

“Ideology [is] usually just a rationale for mentally-ill attackers” says expert. If you are so enraged that you want to kill many random strangers, imagining you are in ISIS might give you a feeling of power and rightness.

Some “pastor” says the good news is that the gays are dead, because it is God’s law in Leviticus, but the bad news is that the shootings will be used to oppose hate speech. He is seeking publicity. He has got it, unfortunately.

Pictures of the gunman create “feelings about the guy” as if you knew him, though you have not even met him. You now have a first impression. Choice of that photograph is great power.

Man kills 53 people he does not know. Everyone starts talking about it. Some want to stop such things happening, some want to use it to further their own agenda. Some propose sensible, thoughtful reactions, some impulsive idiocy.

Homophobia is the problem. Mateen got enraged, after seeing two men kissing “in front of his wife and their child”. On Pink News, I read homophobes have already praised the shooting. Well- they quoted a tweet, “Someone is doing G-d’s work in Orlando”.  Troll no-one has heard of says shocking thing for lulz. The American Family Association will not say anything like that; but any use of gay people as scapegoats encourages others to do the same. If you hate us without cause, that makes such hate more thinkable for other people, and may have created a rationalisation for murder in this case.

Especially in times of darkness, that is the time to love,
that an act of love may tip the balance.
— Aeschylus

25 thoughts on “Using the shooting

  1. Hillary Clinton’s State Dept. shut down an investigation into the mosque Orlando killer Omar Mir Siddique Mateen attended because it “unfairly singled out Muslims.”

    The Fort Pierce Islamic Center, where Mateen worshipped several times a week, was under investigation by both the FBI and DHS as early as 2011 for ties to a worldwide Islamic movement known as Tablighi Jamaal which was linked to several terrorist organizations.

    But the investigation was shut down under pressure from the Clinton-ran State Dept. and DHS’s Civil Rights and Civil Liberties Office out of fear of offending Muslims, according to recently retired DHS agent Philip Haney.

    That plus Hillary Clinton has taken an estimated 50 million in donations from Islamic countries that kill lgbt.
    She’s playing both sides to her own $$$$$$$ profit. She stopped the 2011 investigation because the money was coming from Islam.


  2. Love is a wonderful thing, Clare, and you are a good Quaker. Now, here is what must be done: (1) The U.S. must ban civilian use of high capacity assault weapons; (2) Pistol concealed carry privileges must be granted to gays, lesbians and transgendered people. I assure you that as I type these words, they are purchasing firearms. There is a group here in the Bay Area called the Pink Pistols. I have considered meeting up with them at their shooting range with my excellent Sig Saur P226.


    • Canada has far more guns per person than the US, but has background checks. Walter Scott makes the point that Highlanders were far more polite to each other than English people were, because Highland men all carried blades, so the result of a fight was so much more severe.

      Shock me again, darling.

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      • Half shock (and I like it when you call me “darling”). If ten percent of the Orlando nightclub patrons had been armed, this tragedy would have ended quite differently. As I recall, there was another Islamist shooting at a gay nightclub recently, but I forget where.


        • The trouble with that is, that would mean some of that ten percent properly trained and able to contemplate shooting a human being- terrifying- and others of them not properly trained, but feeling they ought to pull out their guns and do something, which I think is worse.

          Added: Authorities in Orlando say the situation changed from an active-shooter scenario to a hostage situation once gunman Mateen made it into one of the bathrooms where club-goers were hiding. He first had a shootout with the off-duty officer at the club’s entrance. Then two other officers arrived and the firing continued. Experts say there’s a big difference between responding to a lone gunman and a shooter who has hostages. In active-shooter situations, police are now trained to respond immediately, even if only one or two officers are available to confront the suspect. In a hostage crisis, law enforcement generally tries to negotiate. Once in the restroom, Mateen called 911 and made statements pledging allegiance to the Islamic State, Orlando Police Chief John Mina said Monday. That’s when the shooting stopped and hostage negotiators began talking with him, the chief said.


          • “[T]en percent properly trained and able to contemplate shooting a human being–terrifying ….” I find the shooter systematically executing those people far more terrifying. I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree. By the way, you do not really contemplate hurting another human being with your martial art, do you? Terrifying.

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            • I have given up the martial arts.

              You know, in Great Britain we just do without guns. Farmers might have shot-guns, some gun clubs still operate, storing guns securely on premises, if someone wants to murder someone or a whole bunch of strangers they have to use knives. We seem to get on OK. 146 gun deaths in 2011: you have more mass-shootings than that. 653 homicides by any method, and 6045 suicides. Two unintentional gun deaths. Even the police rarely carry guns.

              32,351 gun deaths in the US. 16,238 homicides by any method, and 39,518 suicides. The suicide rate, given the larger population, is not that much higher; the homicide rate and gun death rate are incomparable. 591 unintentional gun deaths.


  3. As an Australian, I find this all incredibly devastating. It’s so hard to watch these things happen over and over again. I’m so sorry for what you must be going through personally (due to the attack on the LGBTQ community), as well as a country. I know this isn’t relevant at all, but I just wanted to say that I think it’s awesome you said Da’esh, and are not referring to them as much as “ISIS”. I learnt only recently – and I mean, maybe a few days ago – that apparently, the terrorist cell loves that we refer to them as “ISIS”, as they believe they’ve succeeded, but Da’esh is an insult to them! I had no idea. I know it’s not relevant, but I like that with one word, you’ve delivered a blow to the despicable man that committed this heinous crime, as well as the Da’esh terrorist cell claiming that he did it on their terms. (I say claiming, because like you, I think this has a lot more to do with homophobia than just plain terrorism. Obviously, it’s still a terrorist action – I just think that there was a specific reason Pulse was attacked. I hope that makes sense!)


    • The Paris attacks needed a great deal of organisation. In the US, a lone shooter who commits suicide in this way merely need pop to the shops.

      All over England, I hear of vigils, and friends are getting together this evening. If he had attacked a synagogue, no-one would have questioned that the attack was anti-semitic. Indeed it is an attack on all of us; but it comes from hatred of LGBT.

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      • I couldn’t agree more. It’s undoubtedly a homophobic attack on the LGBTQ community. It’s absolutely devastating. I never asked, I don’t think – are you English?


        • I am mostly English. A bit Scots, still, though, even after twenty years.

          It has been denied, or minimised, in some quarters. The woman in this video also used the words “lunatic” and “mad”. Owen Jones later explained his walking out.

          Later, the Sky news host said, ” I absolutely accept the atrocity in Florida was, of course, an attack on LGBT people”- unfortunately, his very next word was “but”.

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        • Here is an article which helps me get a handle on how I feel:

          ANYHOW, so when someone male with a Ph.D. or who is published seems to “get” what “coercive control” IS, my mind is curious, say, who IS that dude?

          Coercive control is women’s experience, far more than men’s. So listen to the women, not the male expert. I was thinking of blogging it. I may still. Should I just quote?

          That blogger is conflicted. She says she is writing tongue in cheek. She agrees with a lot of what he says. Yet she feels objection. Where he says something she does not agree with, she is angry. His perspective should not enter. If you want to be an ally, shut up and listen.

          Carla-Louise, I don’t know either. In some of these matters I am trying to be an ally, in others I am the oppressed party. I am glad you are an ally but if I show any gratitude that emphasises the power-imbalance between the poor downtrodden and the brave rescuers, or whatever you/we/they are.

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