Catholic Truth

Here is Catholic Truth on the scandal of sex abuse at Fort Augustus Abbey, a Benedictine-run school. It is all down to those pesky homosexuals, apparently. If no-one with homosexual tendencies was in the priesthood, there would be no abuse of boys. The problem could not possibly be the requirement of celibacy, which it appears few priests manage to obey.

I love her approach to editing comments. She deleted the entire text of one, and at first put in an explanation of how offensive it was, and how the commenter had deleted her comment on his site. She deleted the comment about her driving people away from the Catholic church. She is monarch of all she surveys, or at least of her own little site. The commenter had a fair point: denied outlet for their sexual urges, the monks took the option which gave them the least chance of discovery or penalty, that is, to abuse boys. Celibacy is the problem. Or the church’s refusal to report abusers to the government authorities is the problem: Thank God for the Reformation.

Gay men disproportionately have the gifts of empathy which make an excellent pastor. I accused her of denying vocations. There are 2566 Romish parish churches in England and Wales, and the ordination of 31 priests in 2012 was a ten year high. This is clearly not enough to maintain ministry to those churches. I went to the house of the rector of the Roman Catholic cathedral in Cardiff (while chairing the local Churches Together) and he noted that while it was built in the ’60s for several priests, now he was the only one.

“Margaret Mary” denies that they have a vocation. Gay men are just too dangerous for male children in their congregations. The answer, it appears, is to ordain saints, who follow the Apostles. “Editor” then says, There ARE no other “Christian churches”. Christ founded only one. And “we” have thousands of saints, dating back 2000 years. To my challenge, she confirmed that the Orthodox = schismatic. Only her lot are proper Christian. Christ founded The Church, and I’m not in it. Margaret Mary: “outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation”…Anyone who is not a member of the visible Church on earth might not end up in Hell but if they don’t end up in Hell it’s because of the graces coming to them through the Catholic Church. So that’s me told.

She has the Answer. The first thing to do about the decades of child abuse scandals in the RC church throughout the World is to kick out all the gays. Then, we can have saints as priests, to renew the Faith.

Petrus comments, I can’t accept that God creates men or women “homosexual”. He makes us to know Him, love Him and serve Him. Homosexuality is a moral disorder. It would be impossible for God to create a human being with an inclination that could possibly lead to eternal damnation. Impossible.

Homosexuality must, therefore be either a lifestyle choice or an acquired disorder. There’s no other explanation. Except that God, and homosexuality, are not as he supposes. I wondered if he were a satirist, but it appears not.

These are people perfectly divorced from reality. You can win every argument, if you are prepared to deny anything that contradicts your position. The trouble with that is that it makes you incapable of dealing either with the child abuse scandal or the lack of vocations.

6 thoughts on “Catholic Truth

  1. Dear Clare

    Thanks for your post – your clear, cogent and well placed arguments are refreshing. Interesting that Margaret Mary lumps all gay men together and calls them a danger to children. I would have thought it obvious that child abuse is not the same tendency as gayness, but there you are.

    I am smiling a bit wryly today, as you seem to find plenty of fodder for argument among the less – ahem! – the more “authentic” churches. In a sense, their position makes them easier targets in many ways. Though they have plenty of advocates for their one, true way to faith, time and again, their unreconstructed interpretations seem to leave them exposed to scandal and charges of hypocrisy, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

    This race looks set to run and run.

    XXX 🙂


    • That line about Indiana YM goes round in my mind: there are meetings which take one line or the other on homosexuality, but in those meetings where people take opposing views, the subject is alluded to, causes a draft of horror like a shark’s fin, and submerges again. In Penarth meeting, someone can say he objects to the use of the word “God”, and douce Quakers will nod sagely, and in Cardiff meeting some say “But we’re a religious society!” And the twain rarely meet. There was a “but we’re a religious society” letter in The Friend recently- or was it a “Don’t use the word God” letter, I can’t remember.

      Agreeing about stuff makes me feel so much more comfortable.


    • Thank you, mi duck. I will pop in later to see what your commenters make of them.

      When I was growing up, we were “Episcopalian”- and the Catholics had bishops; we baptised, but were not Baptists, etc. Their denial of the name “Orthodox” to the Orthodox church: the word is theirs, others cannot use it even after a millennium of use- chills me.

      Agreement makes me feel so much better. I love to agree with people who think and feel the same way. It makes my feelings acceptable.

      I have found people even further divorced from reality, but their eagerness to damn repelled me.


  2. Hi Clare

    I have just read that ridiculous piece and replied, making the points that the vast majority of paedophiles who prey upon little boys are in fact heterosexual, and that paedophilia, like any abuse, in fact has little to do with sex but is a form of violence carried out by inadequate adults who seek power over others.

    Xandra xxx


    • Have a look at this piece.

      The empirical research does not show that gay or bisexual men are any more likely than heterosexual men to molest children. This is not to argue that homosexual and bisexual men never molest children. But there is no scientific basis for asserting that they are more likely than heterosexual men to do so. And, as explained above, many child molesters cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all; they are fixated on children.

      I was interested in the distinction between “fixated” and “regressed” abusers: Fixation means “a temporary or permanent arrestment of psychological maturation resulting from unresolved formative issues which persist and underlie the organization of subsequent phases of development” (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 176). Many clinicians view fixated offenders as being “stuck” at an early stage of psychological development….Regression is “a temporary or permanent appearance of primitive behavior after more mature forms of expression had been attained, regardless of whether the immature behavior was actually manifested earlier in the individual’s development” (Groth & Birnbaum, 1978, p. 177). Regressed offenders have developed an adult sexual orientation but under certain conditions (such as extreme stress) they return to an earlier, less mature psychological state and engage in sexual contact with children.

      The whole indicates that priestly celibacy is a more likely cause of child abuse, than the homosexuality of priests.


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